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Canada, Guadeloupe and a non critical Canadian media.
Jun 10, 2007 | 10:37AM | report this

Having spent the first two decades or so in my life in a country that has, over the years, turned embarrassing and shameful results (not always defeats) on football fields around the globe into an art form, I’ve suffered more than a few humiliating experiences.

Embarrassing losses to England (9-3, 5-0, 5-1) can come rolling back as if they were yesterday. A devastating loss to Peru at the 1978 World Cup was followed by a draw with Iran. If it is possible to scrape a 5-2 win then Scotland achieved it four years later against New Zealand and then there was a scoreless draw in 1986 against a Uruguayan side that played 89 minutes with ten men.

An opening round loss to Costa Rica in 1990 was perhaps the lowest of the low and since then there has been two draws with the Faroe Islands, a loss to Belarus and assorted beatings in the European Championships. Plus the managerial reign of Berti Vogts had to be endured.

But although Scottish supporters and the media now have a much better grasp of where their team sits in the larger scheme of things they will not stay silent if their team turns in a #### performance.

I think we saw the same thing last summer at the World Cup when US fans vented their anger and disappointment at what they considered to be an unacceptable performance.

At the time I had suggested that if there was a silver lining to the USA’s early exit it was that  the supporters had shown that they were no longer willing to accept just making it to the World Cup Finals. Expectations had risen and the USA team now knew that more was now required of them. The fans and media expected the USA to not only reach the Finals every four years but also to produce decent performances at the Finals.

A year on and I can’t help but contrast the reaction in the USA with that found north of the border after what was arguably the worst result ever suffered in international competition by Canada.

On Saturday evening Canada produced a display that exhibited the worst kind of tactical cowardice in a performance that was pathetic and humiliating. Canada lost 2-1 to Guadeloupe, a country that isn’t even a country.

The mainstream media’s reaction to what is possibly Canada’s worst result in the last 30 years of international competition? The sum of it is two press bureau articles from the Associated Press and Reuters.

The Associated Press describes Canada as “sluggish and disorganized” while quoting interim coach Stephen Hart as saying that “both goals were definitely preventable”. That’s telling them!!

As for Reuters they dedicated a whole two paragraphs to the loss and stated that Canada “became the victim itself of a huge upset.”

What we were treated to on television during the game was even worse. Apparently the fact that a 41-year-old Jocelyn Angloma had been capped 37 times for France was proof that this Guadeloupe side should not be taken for granted and were a good team. God knows how terrified we would be if we ever came up against a team that fielded a 70-year-old Bobby Charlton who has 106 international caps and a World Cup winners medal.

And there was more – the Guadeloupe side had a Sheffield United player in the starting eleven (David Sommeil a reject Manchester City centre back who started four Premiership games for relegated Sheffield United this past season) as well as seven players who played in France and none at a top flight side. That was presented as evidence of quality opponents. You can see how Guadeloupe could be mistaken for Italy or Brazil with a line-up like that can’t you?

Oh yes and this is from commentators that will tell you that Canada is one of the top four countries in CONCACAF. The summation of this humiliation was “an unfortunate result” – hardly a scathing assessment of a reprehensible performance. Instead of holding the Canadian team’s feet to fire as the players day-dreamed their way through ninety minutes what we heard was pathetic.

There were repeated tirades about these horrible Guadeloupe players feigning injury. Certainly something good Canadian boys wouldn’t do. Has Don Cherry been cloned? And of course the Canadians love playing for their country – if that is the case they certainly didn’t show it last night and in the process they didn’t receive one piece of criticism from the men in the booth.

For excessive stretches of the game Canada played as if it was an Artistic Gymnastics contest that could be won on marks for artistic impression if they maintained possession long enough without actually achieving anything of substance.

Balls were played square across the back four continually while the defenders rarely had to deal with anything other than a lone striker. The five-man Canadian midfield in what was supposedly a 4-3-3 formation and the full backs rarely turned the Guadeloupe defense.

When things turned bad there was little or change in the tactics by the coach. Did I mention that coach Stephen Hart suppossedly approached the mighty Guadeloupe with the primary intention of keeping a clean sheet? Thank goodness that someone is there to keep prospective and to not allow the expectations for this Canadian side to get to grandiose.

The midfield pairing of Nash and De Guzman that had performed so admirably against Costa Rica was virtually non-existent while keeper Greg Sutton, who had missed the win over Costa Rica because of concussion, showed that the condition had obviously not cleared as he conceded two long range efforts.

This is not an inexperienced Canadian side. Take a look at the average age and the cumulative number of caps. Atiba Hutchinson and Paul Stalteri have played in the Champions League, Julian De Guzman has held down a regular spot for Deportivo La Coruna during the second half of La Liga season and Dwayne De Rosario is recognized as one of MLS’s great talents.

With a couple of minor exceptions the team was made up of players with experience of playing overseas and generally at good levels. So why do the Canadian media and many fans continue to treat them as a bunch of inexperienced grinders who are beyond criticism? 

Someone once said that inconsistency is the real mediocrity and with the results against Costa Rica and Guadeloupe Canada showed that never truer words were said. And perhaps based on the reaction from Saturday’s game, mediocrity is all that we deserve.

 

32 Comments | Add a comment   categories: USA, Canada, Guadeloupe, Stephen Hart, Jocelyn Angloma, France, Bobby Charlton, David Sommeil, Don Cherry, Martin Nash, Atiba Hutchinson, Paul Stalteri, Julian De Guzman, Dwayne De Rosario, Costa Rica
 
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RINGO
Jun 10, 2007
10:55 AM
Bobby
I wish you would give us your "personal opinion" ,instead of staying neutral!!

And I know this has been said before ,but CONCACAF really needs to do something about the standard of officiating. I hear Graham Poll is looking for a new job!

Last edited by RINGO on June 10th at 11:25 AM.

RINGO
Jun 10, 2007
12:04 PM
And why do Canada not have to qualify for the Gold cup?

BobbyMcMahon
Jun 10, 2007
4:18 PM
Ringo - past winners do not have to qualify.

atleti_female
Jun 10, 2007
4:35 PM
As you point out, Canada have some fairly good players in their squad. Unfortunately, management seems unable (perhaps underqualified?) to train this squad for international competition.

Disgraceful result!

BobbyMcMahon
Jun 10, 2007
4:53 PM
The blog entry has been linked to the Voyageurs site and a question has come up there relating to what Coach Stephen Hart might have done differently. We all see the game differently but here is my take on it.

I don't think there was a need to go with a back four in the second half (perhaps even the first half) and Stalteri's energy, drive and experience could have used to better effect if he had pushed up earlier into midfield. Perhaps he could have slotted in as the holding midfielder. Nash was just never in the game and I think that impacted De Guzman. I realize that moving Stalteri out of the back four earlier might have left the remaining defenders a bit left sided but either way I think Canada could have got more out him. Alternatively, Jazic could have been pushed further forward to play as a wing back to give the side a naturally left sided player who could have perhaps delivered more telling crosses behind the defense.

De Ro could have given a free role instead of being stuck on the periphery of the play. Dominic Kinnear has shown that you get the best out of De Ro when the play naturally finds him not when he only gets the ball played out to him now and then.

TBC below

Last edited by BobbyMcMahon on June 10th at 7:23 PM.

BobbyMcMahon
Jun 10, 2007
4:55 PM
Continued
Ian Hume should have been on earlier and on the right side instead of Bernier. Bernier looks to be an extremely competent defensive player but he doesn’t seem to offer too many options going forward. Given that the conditions were strength sapping a tenacious and aggressive player such as Hume – plus he has a great shot – is the last thing a defender would want to face.He should have been brought on a lot earlier.

I have to admit that I have not seen a lot of Gerba but he looked pretty lively when he came off the bench against Venezuela. However, he doesn’t strike me as a target type striker and probably plays better with someone up there beside him. Hutchinson could have played closer to him and provided more support and opportunities. Maybe a Gerba/Hutchison pairing up front with De Rosario just behind with more chances to use his great shot.

Last edited by BobbyMcMahon on June 10th at 4:57 PM.

davard
Jun 10, 2007
5:14 PM
Bobby-

This is excellent writing.

Dwayne DeRosario is the type of player who could score 20+ goals in the English Championship, and maybe even a few in the Premiership.

For a team with a player like him, and Stalteri, to be on a team that loses to Guadeloupe, well, it's kind of cool for Guadeloupe, but that's about it.

More importantly, Steve Nash was an excellent player for Santa Clara and excelled in D1 soccer. Perhaps someone should inquire about his availabilty - Yes, basketball is far different, but someone of his athletic caliber and intensity could re-learn what it takes to guide a Gold Cup midfield against some less quality players.

Plus, it'd be a marketing coup for Team Canada and several people would make lots of money. Takers?

Last edited by davard on June 10th at 5:15 PM.

RINGO
Jun 10, 2007
6:39 PM
Thanks Bobby ,I didn`t know that ,I just assumed that the US and Mexico qualified automatically ,as they are the only countries to have hosted ,and are the two major players in the region.
And do you still see a US/Mexico final?

Last edited by RINGO on June 10th at 6:40 PM.

Miro
Jun 10, 2007
8:16 PM
Hi,

I realize the disappointment over loosing this game...

The problem is that International Soccer is extremely competative and each game has to be played with maximum desire to score goals.

It happened in the game vs Costa Rica,it obviously didn't happen vs Goudeloupe.

While inconsistancy is probably the biggest measure of mediocrity,some Top Countries in the world,including England,Czech Rep,Germany,USA....etc...have had a fair share of that....Loosing redicules games etc.,in the past and present,even at the World Cup...

Should have Canada focus just on keeping posession,no,especially with the terrible goaltending,they might have just thrown themselves forward and keep the net empty.

I am not supporting loses of the Team,however,refuse to write off international players for not scoring one extra goal in an international match .

You can't "like" them one day and "destroy" them 3 days later...They are either good or not.

If you believe that they have some potential then you just have to stick with them...

The prove will be tomorrow when they backed themselves to the corner of beating Haiti or being out of the Tournament etc...

Thierry_Henry
Jun 10, 2007
9:20 PM
I remember Angloma during the champions league when O. Marseille won the title together with Abdi Pele, in 1993.

When I saw ANGLOMA on the starting lineup, I said, NO, IT CAN'T BE JOCELYN. He can't still be playing now. or is he?

I never thought he will come back to haunt canada in 2007! wow. it's a long time ago. 14years ago! hahahaha. COACH NEEDS TO BE FIRED.

Last edited by Thierry_Henry on June 10th at 9:22 PM.

Miro
Jun 10, 2007
9:29 PM
If Henry is up at 6 o'clock in the morning{in France}...then say,stop impersonating a player who probably doesn't even know that Gold Cup is being played etc....

If Henry is on vacation in his native land,then laughing is great,except his own team couldn't assure performance in Germany and were 1 goal from eliminations,until late in the game...

Should have the goalie known that in international soccer,players will try these chips?Yes...

That's the problem with Canadian players who just don't play street soccer.

Last edited by Miro on June 10th at 9:46 PM.

Miro
Jun 10, 2007
9:44 PM
Also,there was this game at Stadium Du France in Paris few years ago,when Czechs blanked France 2:0.....I believe that Henry played in that game....

Rivaldo
Jun 10, 2007
10:07 PM
Did the same guy write: "Jocelyn Angloma, who played 37 times for France, may now be 41-years-old but he is still has some magic left. Angloma was a fantastic right back and played for the likes of PSG, Marseilles, Inter Milan and Valencia during his time in Europe. He played in three Champions League finals as well as the 1992 and 1996 European Championships."

and

"Apparently the fact that a 41-year-old Jocelyn Angloma had been capped 37 times for France was proof that this Guadeloupe side should not be taken for granted and were a good team. God knows how terrified we would be if we ever came up against a team that fielded a 70-year-old Bobby Charlton who has 106 international caps and a World Cup winners medal."

Canada should have done better, but losing isn't a disgrace. Guadeloupe's players are professionals unlike the amateurs of the Faroe Islands, for example. Canada made two big mistakes and Guadeloupe put both of them in the net.

MrRedDevil
Jun 10, 2007
10:15 PM
Bobby,

I only saw the last 10 minutes of the match (the Spanish broadcast), and Canada looked like they didn't give a #### about losing. They just kept passing it around their back four and took their time.

There was no passion or sense of urgency to score a late goal and there seemed to be a lack of leadership amongst their best players, like Stalteri and De Rosario.

Hey Ringo, it's good to see that you finally got a haircut.

Miro
Jun 10, 2007
10:15 PM
I do not belive for a moment that Rivaldo and/or Henry monitor this blog,however,for whoever is impersonating them...You are talking more intelligent.{then before}

Last edited by Miro on June 10th at 10:18 PM.

flashman
Jun 10, 2007
11:16 PM
My first thought in watching this farce o####ame was that the Canadian players were tanking deliberately to make it impossible for Costa Rica to get through to the next round.

The other concern was that Greg Sutton still hasn't gotten over his alleged concussion. I thought this was a little early to be bringing him back, especially against such a supposedly weak opponent.

Mismanagement of players wouldn't be a first for Canada, but tanking a game? That is out of character. What next? Betting on the results?Diving?

Miro
Jun 11, 2007
12:08 AM
I do not think that they "tried" to do that....They probably tried to show the quality of what they can do and play and just over did it a little....

I am telling you...Do not write them off...if they beat Haiti,they will go a long way....

voodooman8
Jun 11, 2007
1:15 AM
Well let me tell ya...the way I see it...Canada had plenty of chances to shoot but they kept turning it at their blue line, no thanks to Quadaloop playing the trap. Nash has gotta drive it cross ice while our guys to crash the net. Forecheck!

Overall, I think Canada still has a good shot at making out of group A. Play with some urgency, though!

manutd5
Jun 11, 2007
4:04 AM
I agree Bobby. It was a poor performance and boring as anything. I think you may be right when you say that maybe this country needs to put more pressure on their teams in order to wake them up!

BobbyMcMahon
Jun 11, 2007
5:14 AM
Rivaldo – I wrote both pieces and I see a difference between pointing out that a once great player will be lining up for Guadeloupe and the other (together with other comments) which uses it as an illustration of what a good side Guadeloupe is. He's 41 and he played 90 minutes.

A couple of questions back to you if I may– was the Canadian performance (whether by the players or the coach) acceptable to you as a supporter? Has Canada ever suffered a worse result?

BobbyMcMahon
Jun 11, 2007
5:14 AM
Rivaldo – I wrote both pieces and I see a difference between pointing out that a once great player will be lining up for Guadeloupe and the other (together with other comments) which uses it as an illustration of what a good side Guadeloupe is. He's 41 and he played 90 minutes.

A couple of questions back to you if I may– was the Canadian performance (whether by the players or the coach) acceptable to you as a supporter? Has Canada ever suffered a worse result?

coachboon
Jun 11, 2007
10:20 AM
I agree that Canada's game was pathetic and a disgrace.

To address Bobby's comments regarding the press, the TV announcers have to stop sugar coating our play. EPL commentors call the play as it is. So why do our television announcers try to hide the obvious? Anybody watching these games are going to be soccer fans - and you can't fool them. Let's demand more from both our team and our announcers.

Coach Boon

carolinaazzurri
Jun 11, 2007
1:02 PM
Bobby,

You're dead on on two accounts. This was a pitful performance by Canada that the media should be riding them on.

As a kid growing up in the glory days of the NASL and being an american soccer fan for thirty years now the greatest thing to come out of the last world cup was the fact that just getting there is no longer acceptable. Decent results and advancement are expected. Trust me for most of the eighties if you told someone that would be the case in twenties years they would have just laughed at you.

Losing and being mad about it is a first step.

Last edited by carolinaazzurri on June 11th at 1:04 PM.

BlackRosesUnited
Jun 11, 2007
1:40 PM
Hey Bobby,
Soccer(Football) is a funny game at times.Guadeloupe has always had a strong local league and many of its players combined with those of Martinique- Henry, Tigana, Angloma,Thuram, Desailles- have all gone on to European and international successes. Small countries or departments if you will have talented players as well as the more developed ones. Canada simply could not score a goal, do not become a slave to soccer ethnocentricity. The loss was the fault of the strikers, not the coach- Staltieri had two open chances, he shanked them both. The service given by DeRosario on the left wing was superb. The strikers did not finish; we blame the coaches for all failings- look at the finish on the goal scored- That was classic; Simply get another striker who can score. Adieu

manu4evr
Jun 11, 2007
2:12 PM
I actually found the game to be quite amusing seeing as how I felt canada played such a mediocre game against costa rica and were fortunate to get the result they did.I find it even more amusing that the only way to view other countries in the competition you would need specialty channels or satellite,yet the local channels have no problems showing canadas games even when they`re being humiliated by a team comprised of grandfathers and lesser skilled players.Its easy to blame the coach but a coach cant teach you how to play with pride and heart which is what was lacking from team canada

Ole!
Jun 11, 2007
4:14 PM
Hey Bobby, Canada played poorly, they played without passion, there was no desire to win a game in which they were thought to be superior. Canada's organization, as you pointed out in your blog, was ineffective and predictable and would have been destroyed against a stronger Mexican or American side. Goalkeeper Sutton never looked comfortable and the players lacked energy and motivation. However, as a Canadian deeply rooted and updated in any transpiring news in the sport, the Canadian media's lack of criticism and scrutiny is nothing new. Many anylysts see Canada as a developing nation when it comes to football and would quickly conform to a decent result against international squads fielding several first or second division team players from europe. Even many locals and so called football enthusiasts, as sad as this may seem, are unaware of the talents of such players as De Ro, or Atiba Hutchinson let alone where they play. Many do not even know that the world youth championships are to be held in our great diverse and metropolitan cities; football is seen as a foreigner's sport and to excel as a player you must search for glory outside of the country. The rising talent which Canada possesses such as Jaime Peters and many others from the youth squad combined with the experience and confidence exhibited by players such as De Guzman and Hutchinson call for a very entertaining squad in the future. If only our management and scouts weren't as leniant with these poor results and I only hope that drastic changes will be made to stay in contention for the Gold Cup.

Last edited by Ole! on June 11th at 4:15 PM.

Ole!
Jun 11, 2007
4:23 PM
Continued

And If that occurs the only thing left is for the media to step up and treat football as it were baseball or hockey in this country, the media needs to start bashing on disgraceful results such as these to gain the attention of many footablling parties within the counrty and shine the spotlight on what exactly went wrong so that Canada may better itself. However the way things are going our goal to reach the 2010 world cup let alone win the Gold Cup is in serious doubt and it's very sad for a country with so much raw potential. If only Rafa or Jose decided to lend a helping hand...

Last edited by Ole! on June 11th at 4:24 PM.

TrueCrew
Jun 11, 2007
7:44 PM
I have a question in regards to Guadeloupe. I've seen Bobby say they are a country (not a country) and they couldn't go to the Confederations Cup even if they won.

My question is this. What distinguishes Guadelope from other teams who aren't a "real" country either? Such as Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland (and England). The "countries" do not have separate seats at the U.N., nor do they compete separately in the Olympics, yet they compete in the WC. Why not Guadeloupe?

Rivaldo
Jun 12, 2007
2:56 AM
No, it wasn't an acceptable performance. Canada must score more than 1 goal against a team like Guadeloupe. The finishing was poor, which has always been Canada's problem.

When it became apparent that Guadeloupe was sitting back and playing for a counter-attack, tactics should have changed.

Is it Canada's worst result ever? Maybe. Losing to Malta was embarrassing, but that was just a friendly.

There were some more heartbreaking loses in World Cup qualifying to El Salvador and T&T teams that weren't much better than Guadeloupe.

colleen33408
Jun 12, 2007
7:40 AM
Yes, this is very embarrassing for Canada and I'm surprised it didn't get more media attention even in the U.S. Too bad FSC didn't broadcast this or the other non-US games.

However, we shouldn't lose sight of what an incredible accomplishment this is for Guadeloupe. I, for one, would like to see Guadeloupe be recognized by FIFA and not have quasi status. Then we'd see how good France really is without all the support from Guadeloupe!

I think Guadeloupe's achievements really speak to the improved quality from the Caribbean region, but unfortunately it looks like Guadeloupe may be the only team to emerge from group play even though Cuba and Haiti performed pretty well too.

It doesn't seem right that 5/7 Central American countries get representation at the Gold Cup but only 4 from the whole Caribbean!

art_durbano
Jun 12, 2007
8:45 AM
OK, deep breath, Bobby.
Les Voyaguers came through just fine against the other lot of French-speaking islanders and won the group last night. Guatemala (most likely) looms, unless something really weird happens tonight. I don't see Canada beating Guatemala, but you never know. This is, to be fair, a draining tournament; games every two/three days in the summertime. In all likelihood, Canada just took their foot off the gas v. Guadeloupe and got caught out. Stuff happens, eh?

RINGO
Jun 12, 2007
11:27 AM
Bobby
Do Scotland still get you going ,the way Canada seems to?

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