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Speakers' Corner #38
May 27, 2007 | 5:05PM | report this

The FIFA sponsorship row between Mastercard and Visa may have to be decided by penalty kicks.

Sid Lowe writing just prior to England recalling David Beckham.  While Joe Lovejoy writes of the return post-recall.

Simon Barnes with the significant role of luck in football

Jim White tells you how you can own a team or at least part of one. I heard Will Brooks being interviewed on the Australian Broadcasting Service two weeks ago and meant to post a link…… but didn’t get around to it.

An article on Jack Warner's best buddy -not -  investigative sport journalist Andrew Jennings.

Conrad Leach on the new-look strike force that Brazil may field against England.

An audio story from Stefan Fatsis, sportswriter for The Wall Street Journal, that was on National Public Radio.

And finally one of the blog's regular readers is looking for some help and is hoping that some of you might take a couple of minutes to complete a fan survey that will be used for classwork.

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MasMaz
May 27, 2007
5:46 PM
Lovejoy's an ####. He states that Beckham was peripheral and nothing more at the world cup, is he kidding?? Peripheral to a load of sh**e.

-No other England player could start in Madrid.

-What a joke, Becks should decline to play, but he won't he loves the shirt too much.

Venti_vidi_vici
May 27, 2007
8:08 PM
Before you waste your time reading the Simon Barnes article here's the first paragraph, "On Wednesday night, AC Milan beat Liverpool by accident. As a result, they won the Champions League. Just think of it: the biggest prize in European football went to Milan because a ball accidentally hit a chap."

He's right, that's exactly how Milan managed to win the UCL - great article Simon!!! Here's my favorite definition of luck: Luck is a word losers use to describe winners.

Joe Lovejoy is definately an ####. And by the way, in Zagreb, McClaren played with a 5-3-2 formation (not a 3-5-2) because he was scared of losing. His biggest problem is he doesn't have the stones for the job and everyone can see it.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
5:15 AM
If you want the opposite view on Beckham to that of Lovejoy ,read Nick Webster`s latest blog.I notice Lovejoy accuses Mclaren of picking him without seeing him in person ,and then compares MLS to the conference ,he`s obviously never seen MLS!
When Simon Barnes says there are four trophies in european club football ,he must think the cup-winners-cup is still played.

Last edited by RINGO on May 28th at 5:27 AM.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
5:49 AM
Today`s game.
Both teams and their supporters probably belong in the EPL ,but West Brom have the better and more experienced players ,3-1 to the Baggies.
The big wild-card in the game however ,Graham Poll in his last game before (forced?) retirement.Will he go out with a ####!
And I wonder what the over/under is on hearing the words "it`s the richest game in football".

Venti_vidi_vici
May 28, 2007
8:16 AM
The only thing more cruel than a $100m winner take all match, is a penalty shootout to decide the match. It'll take something very special now for anyone to manage a goal in this one.

LosAngelesChelseaFan
May 28, 2007
8:23 AM
Aye, but as the commentator astutely enquired "Is that the sixty million punt* goal?"

*Setanta simultaneous translation.

henry14
May 28, 2007
8:36 AM
l have a couple of things to say. I do not know if its your company policy Bobby that you are not supposed to say that mls is poor , because if you read nick ' article you would have thought mls is like the prem.l do not see becks in the near future, because in my opinion the mls is more of a leauge that is based on passion and euphoria rather than quality.the defending and general play is gennerally appalling, the leauge is just not good enough as fantasy manager with jan pablo angel will testfy
the second thing is that as much as l despise roman , l have to agree with him stopping to splash cash for a number of good reasons. the demands that frank and terry are putting are unheard of and even Bobby might say they are worth every penny l think roman is begining to notice that every business partener is taking advantage of him in any deal as far as soccer is concened.these guys want contracts for life, which is something that l have not heard of.there is no guarantee that frank and john will be at their best in 5 years time and the claim for terry for $280k + a close to be manager of chelsea is ridicolous

Last edited by henry14 on May 28th at 8:50 AM.

henry14
May 28, 2007
8:49 AM
cont... chelsea almost won the quadrupple without terry for the key parts of the season and many could argue that cech was the difference between them having a double and a quadruple, so why should they pay this guy that amount of money, when the team has moved to have other key players as well.roman has also noticed that he is being taken for a ride kaka, ronaldhino, eto'o, ronaldo are probably the 4 best footballers on earth but non of them earns anything above $240k a week , so what would make frank and john think they are worth $280k a week , l just feel these guys need to get real
my third issue is that roman has made a blunder if he is not at least paying reasonable amounts to get at least a forwad.rumour has it that alex and pizzaro will follow siddwell.l think these are bad signings for both parties involved as l feel sidwell will only play in january when essien and mikel are away, pizzaro is like defoe , can be as good as they get for 4 games and horrible for the next 15, and as for alex l am not so sure how he will adapt to pace and power of the prem, he got a lot of accolades for that arsenal game, but lets face it adebayor is never going to score with any descent ratio and baptista was just an arbotion, so since he was against the poorest forwads anyteam can have l would not jump to say he is great, and l all see them as bench players at most

Last edited by henry14 on May 28th at 8:52 AM.

Venti_vidi_vici
May 28, 2007
8:50 AM
Bobby:
What is your take on the goings on at Stamford Bridge? What will Chelsea look like in three months time, will they sign anybody important, who will leave?
Reportedly during a strategic meeting last week to discuss summer transfer targets etc., Abramovich apparently drastically cut spending, removed himself from day-to-day operations of the club, Lampard and Terry still don't have a new contract, and Mourinho wasn't even in the meeting. I guess just like a spoiled kid, his new expensive toy isn't as much fun anymore, and is amazingly making a mess of a very fine football club.

LosAngelesChelseaFan
May 28, 2007
8:57 AM
Poll exits with another clanger... Derby player made contact with ankle before ball in the early going. Very close to call though. Derby already practicising penalty area dives for the premiership. A victory for old direct football over unrealized potential. Sorry West Brom, not tough enough for this game. So I picked another result correctly, but I think West Brom would have been slightly less bad than Derby in the EPL. We shall see.

Bogberly would be a better name given this pitch.

Last edited by LosAngelesChelseaFan on May 28th at 2:41 PM.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
9:00 AM
Correction ,I meant to say 1-0 to Derby!
But they will have to keep their best player ,Giles Barnes ,and sign a couple of goalscorers ,because Howard and Pesky will not get it done , to stand any chance of staying up.
And I apologise to Graham Poll ,he probably had his best game for a long time.
Don`t you think it is cruel and unusual punishment to make the losing team walk up those 1,007 steps!

Last edited by RINGO on May 28th at 9:02 AM.

LosAngelesChelseaFan
May 28, 2007
9:05 AM
It's actually 2,847 steps, three twists, a pike and a double hitch. It reminds me of the Robin Williams golf video. "Now when their completely exhausted and in deep dispair, we'll make them go on freaking mountaineering obstacle course, great idea."

As someone I knew (actually from Derby) once said "It's the kind of thinking that gives idiots a bad name."

RINGO
May 28, 2007
9:18 AM
H14 ,and others.
You need to stop getting your info from the Sun (and why has Foxsoccer started quoting them?) ,the only part of the Sun worth "reading" is page3 (sorry ,Atleti!).

RINGO
May 28, 2007
9:25 AM
Anyone fancy joining me down the local for a pint?
I`m buying!

LosAngelesChelseaFan
May 28, 2007
9:29 AM
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Last edited by LosAngelesChelseaFan on May 28th at 9:31 AM.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
9:46 AM
?

Last edited by RINGO on May 28th at 10:00 AM.

verbal97
May 28, 2007
9:57 AM
I read that Henry is going to Barcelona, van Persie is going to Bayern Munich and Wenger to Real taking Fabregas with him. Arsenal is also going to struggle to keep Flamini, who'll they'll be desperate to keep after Wenger leaves and they'll have to appoint Graeme Souness who will be announced in July. It's the end of an era at Arsenal who will now be eclipsed by their North London neighbors as well as Everton, Newcastle and Villa. They'll be battling with the likes of Blackburn for an Intertoto Cup spot.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
10:03 AM
I hear they are also vacating the Emirates ,due to problems with Islington council ,and are going to groundshare with Tottenham!

atleti_female
May 28, 2007
10:05 AM
Flamini is a great player and deserves more play time than he has been given at Arsenal.

henry14
May 28, 2007
10:17 AM
flamini is the closest thing to owen hargreave , a vey whole hearted player but desperately limited and hence he should go , and we have diaby, denilso, song and gilberto all ahead of him to start along cesc.
verbal. l was agaist rafa 's claim for cash only and have nothing against liverpool.l personally would not mind see henry go if wenger can bring not as much a player like him , but a 25 goal striker to play along rvp .the other thing is that wenger had offered reyes, freedy and 7m pounds for torres at atheletico, but they want adebayor or rosicky in place of freedy

atleti_female
May 28, 2007
10:41 AM
Ljungberg is injury prone; you can keep him.

Venti_vidi_vici
May 28, 2007
11:46 AM
Very puzzling article by Simon Barnes, considering his article before the final he was hoping Liverpool could get 'lucky' and win the final.

Here's an excerpt from his article published the day of the final entitled:

Why the gods will smile on Liverpool only as underdogs

"But logic never takes you that far in football. That is the nature of the game and the insanely high value of its currency, the goal. In no other sport does David so often slay Goliath, does the underdog so often bite. Circumstance, emotions, spirit, a single moment of inspiration, a single moment of folly; a football match – any football match – can change forever in an instant of time.

That’s what I mean with this fancy talk about gods, that football doesn’t work in logical and predictable ways. It is more violently and perversely changeable than any other sport in the calendar. Do Liverpool need to be taken down a peg? Do Milan deserve a change of luck? Such ideas may not come from literal gods, but they are still the sort of thing that affects players and determines the course of football matches. I’ve seen too many football matches to believe otherwise.

If Liverpool wish to win, I suggest they make the appropriate sacrifices, wash themselves clean of expectation and clad themselves humbly in hope."

He knows how it works, so I don't understand what he's moaning about now! I guess we all hope for a bit of good luck, but never manage to accept a dose of bad luck.

Link to referenced article: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sp
ort/columnists/simon_barnes/article
1826792.ece

davard
May 28, 2007
11:55 AM
Venti-

Don't sweat it, my friend. You guys won. Maldini gets to go out on top (he is retiring now, right?) - and all is well.

Milan's second goal of the night was pure class as well, and you have previously stated that Liverpool's was offside.

I'll never give you that first Milan goal, but overall it should have been 1-0 Milan anyways - karma got it right. And in terms of luck, perhaps pippo was unlucky it hit him in the arm, when it could have hit his hip, leg, head - anywhere else less controversial.

Besides, you've got no points deduction for next year now, Inter's going to jettison some players, Ronaldo looks hungry again (for trophies, not pies), it's all good.

Last edited by davard on May 28th at 11:57 AM.

MasMaz
May 28, 2007
12:01 PM
-Very funny Verbal. Ha-ha.

-I hear that lunatic Rafa wants to clone Cruyff, Maradona and Henry. He claims that is the only way he can compete with the big spenders in the prem.

-Flamini is a great player and next season when injuries cause holes and there is no Flamini to stick in, we'll see how much Arsenal miss him.
-It's a shame Wenger must not think he is dynamic enough, I think he is a great player very good at everything, very stable just the type of player we need to keep. He deserves more games, but I am sure he can get them at Ashburton Grove. Arsene please don't sell our utility man, please. Ask Chelsea what happens when you sell your utility man.
-Freddy can go, I love him but it is time, he could be the man somewhere else, I wish he would go to Newcastle.

-Diaby= Sissoko clone, no thanks maybe in a few years.
-Song- No thank you, maybe in a few years.

Last edited by MasMaz on May 28th at 12:04 PM.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
12:03 PM
VVV
Ignore that #### in the Times ,in the words of Mr.Soprano "fah-ged abaad id".
And repeat after me -CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE....CHAMPIONS OF EUROPE!!
(If you say it in a scouse accent ,all the better!).

MasMaz
May 28, 2007
12:33 PM
-Bobby are you absolutely certain that this survey is for a college kid? the questions are pretty tricky, sounds like a government/corporate profile to me. The last question might as well be, Are you now or have you ever been a communist?

atleti_female
May 28, 2007
12:54 PM
Hah! I answered the survey using one of my alternate email addresses. I'm a graduate student, so I'm accustomed to answering surveys for students of other academic disciplines. The bulk of the questions are football-related, so no big deal.

Last edited by atleti_female on May 28th at 12:56 PM.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
1:00 PM
If nmiric would like to set up his own website ,I would be happy to answer his questions ,anonymously.

In the meantime ,I would like to say that Atletico Madrid will win the UEFA cup next season. (remember where you heard it first).

Last edited by RINGO on May 28th at 1:01 PM.

atleti_female
May 28, 2007
1:02 PM
There are still a couple games left to this season. Don't jinx it!

RINGO
May 28, 2007
1:05 PM
Deleted - on order from Atleti.

Last edited by RINGO on May 28th at 1:54 PM.

neophyte
May 28, 2007
1:12 PM
Prediction: Brazil humiliates England--how about that for going out on a limb? Does England even have a striker besides Rooney? Don't give me Crouch--he's great at the airial stuff if the officals let him jump without calling foul. Dunga was the right man for the Brazilian job. It looked like Brazil needed discipline and some new faces and from what it sounds like Dunga has put the hammar down and even found some tough to find Brazilian talent (sarcasm). If they play like they did against Argentina (in England) look out.

Venti_vidi_vici
May 28, 2007
1:17 PM
Davard:
Maldini is actually having knee surgery tomorrow, and will be back for next season, which will be his farewell season. He is closing in on his 1000th match, and could move into sole possession of the record for most UCL finals played and titles next season. I hope there are no points deductions for next season, there are rumblings of more investigations, but I hope they learn from other leagues and just sweep it all under the rug.

Inter will still be the team to beat next season. Figo is having second thoughts and is trying to wriggle free of his contract with Al Ittihad. (Who would've thought Figo would be weaseling out of a contract!?). They are very strong up front with Ibrahimovich, Crespo and Adriano. Milan need reinforcements and are being linked with some big names, we'll see.

RINGO, I can't do a scouse accent but it sounds good anyway.

I sent in the survey already. I liked the question : How do you feel when your team loses? anger, sadness, dissappointment, bitterness, frustration, disillusionment, rage, paranoia, betrail - I hope it's not going in my FBI file.

MasMaz
May 28, 2007
1:28 PM
-I was only half joking, but the questions aren't softballs, they start nice and sweet but then become more psychological, this survey can't do anything Google isn't doing already.

RINGO you are shameless, but I like it.

-Isn't the real Ringo a scouser?

atleti_female
May 28, 2007
1:36 PM
Delete that bit, RINGO!!!

VVV:
HAH! I answered that question similarly: anger, sadness, disappointment, shock, crushed,helpless, embarassment,

'Betrayal' is a word I should've included as well.

For Red Devil supporters: it appears Real Madrid are interested in Heinze.

MasMaz
May 28, 2007
1:39 PM
Evra has not shown he can handle the rigours of the prem physically, Neville is falling apart and Vidic is injury prone it seems the last 2 years. ManU need to keep Heinze.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
1:43 PM
How do you know I am NOT the real Ringo?
I could "sing" and prove it ,if you want!

MasMaz
May 28, 2007
1:55 PM
I have actually met Ringo. I swear. Under interesting circumstances when I was in High School. If you can give me the name of a certain high end drug rehab clinic in southern Arizona. I will verify your identity.

-No I was not in rehab.(not that young anyway.

-I met Ringo, Don Johnson and Jean-Claude Van Damme.

-I hope you are the real Ringo as I was always a big fan, very underrated percussionist, his solo albums were great too.

Last edited by MasMaz on May 28th at 1:56 PM.

Venti_vidi_vici
May 28, 2007
1:55 PM
RINGO: How does an auld scouser like yourself end up a Chelsea fan anyway?

RINGO
May 28, 2007
2:06 PM
"Ev`ry time I see your face,
it reminds me of the places we used to go,
but all I have is a photograph............."

I told you not to make me sing!!

MasMaz
May 28, 2007
2:12 PM
Alright, for purposes of this Blog I will accept you as the great Ringo, I understand if you would not like to speak about the valleys of your life.

-Interesting that our paths have crossed again.

-You still must answer how you became a Chelsea supporter. Is it true Paul beat his wife??

RINGO
May 28, 2007
2:34 PM
I became a chelsea supporter back in the early sixties ,after partying with Mick (Jagger ,I hate to name drop) and the boys in the Kings road ,a particular favourite haunt of ours was the Chelsea drugstore (appropriate name ,don`t you think?) ,I remember Paul wasn`t much fun at the time ,Linda was to blame.
But John was always the life and soul of the party ,Imagine that!
Don`t seem to remember George being around that much ,he was always talking to some Indian chap.
And NO ,Paul did not not beat up Heather ,the old witch fell over switching out her wooden leg.

Gotta go ,me old mucca (macca) ,is calling long distance!
Glad I could clear that up for you all!

LosAngelesChelseaFan
May 28, 2007
3:17 PM
Dear Bobby, I must complain
Your Bloggers have all gone insane
Instead of talking soccer
They’ve gone off their rocker
I wish they would desist and refrain.

With just summer transfers to spot
They’ve seem to have all “lost the plot”
With leagues all but decided
They should take up (like I did)
A sport that's fit for a Scot

Last edited by LosAngelesChelseaFan on May 28th at 3:44 PM.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
3:30 PM
Paul?....is that you?
With your lyrics and my drumming ,we could re-conquer the world!

And I swear that was Billy Connelly impersonating Robin Williams!

LosAngelesChelseaFan
May 28, 2007
3:45 PM
Billy Conn... doesn't have such a good accent

Last edited by LosAngelesChelseaFan on May 28th at 3:55 PM.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
3:46 PM
.,.

Last edited by RINGO on May 28th at 3:51 PM.

Venti_vidi_vici
May 28, 2007
3:52 PM
Thanks Starkey, I've always wondered.
Can't believe you exposed your email address for several minutes, absolute craziness.

Last edited by Venti_vidi_vici on May 28th at 3:53 PM.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
4:01 PM
I told Barbra ,it was not a good idea ,but she said do it anyway ,(WOMEN!) ,oh well ,i feel like I know you anyway.

MasMaz
May 28, 2007
4:08 PM
-Don't worry RINGO I won't give it to anyone.

-Yes this blog has gone off the deep-end where is H14 to start trouble when you need him.

djnima
May 28, 2007
4:21 PM
BOBBY! I just have one question and one question only this week.

who do you think deserves to win La Liga this year?

and please don't say whoever has the most points and head to head records =D

also, when is rupert murdoch going to give you your own show? i think you've paid your dues and are ready for the big time. and my blog compatriots would agree with me i imagine.

RINGO
May 28, 2007
4:36 PM
VVV / Mas
If you want to make contact ,I have no problem with that.

Atleti
I have deleted the comment (I think it was the right one) your wish is my command.

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