The school of Touchdown Jesus and Knute Rockne now has a more ignominious distinction: nine straight bowl losses, breaking a tie with South Carolina and West Virginia for the most in NCAA history. It is clear the Fighting Irish aren't among the nation's elite.
What do you think?
Should Notre Dame continue to be invited to BCS bowls, even if there are clearly better teams out there -- we're looking at you, Auburn and Wisconsin -- that would give opponents a better game?
Or, is a third lopsided loss in three BCS bowl games enough to keep Notre Dame from earning its spot in the marquee games? Are you as sick of seeing this annual debacle as many other college football fans are?
Over-rated as usual. They play only three good teams all year and get blown out in all three games. I wish people would stop kissing Notre Dame's butts. They may have a storied history, but in reality, they have been a mid-major for quite some time.
most defintely; i could not believe ND started out at #2. plz ppl, they can't even beat the hard teams in their schedule nonetheless the bowl games. don't praise their wins over lousy teams like michigan state which btw they should have lost to. im sick and tired of watching ND lose by so many pts. last year, osu killed them. this year, lsu commmited the crime. im begging you, stop the cruel violence. ND obviously can not handle their job nor keep up expectations.
most defintely; i could not believe ND started out at #2. plz ppl, they can't even beat the hard teams in their schedule nonetheless the bowl games. don't praise their wins over lousy teams like michigan state which btw they should have lost to. im sick and tired of watching ND lose by so many pts. last year, osu killed them. this year, lsu commmited the crime. im begging you, stop the cruel violence. ND obviously can not handle their job nor keep up expectations.
When is the BCS going to get enough of Notre Dame. They have not won a big game in years. They not only loose every big game. They get the #### beat out of them. This years Notre Dame team would have lost to Kentucky, Nevada, Hawaii, or any other lower tier conference team. They are an absolute JOKE.
In a word NO. Notre Dame gets so much public attention that no matter what they are always assured a top 20 ranking. How can you ook at their strength of schedule and say that they deserve that high of a bowl bid. They only played 3 ranked teams and got destroyed in two of them and barely beat a UCLA team they should have dominated being 11th ranked. Sick of the Notre Dame hype put someone in the rankings that deserves it or give them a tougher schedule to prove it.
Unfortunately mjy notre dame will continue to be the pollsters darling, and the bowls will continue to invite them, regardless of the blow-outs, are if they continue to add to their 0-9 record for bowl losses! The AP is way to biased towards notre dame. And notre dame is the media and bowls cash cow. Why is it that notre dame is in a conference in every sport but football? Money, plain and simple, also then they would have to schedule more quality opponents and would be able to pad their schedule with the service academies, who have weight restrictions, not dissing the service academies, just stating facts!
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Notre Dame has been coasting into bowls riding on a reputation based on their rapidly-receding history.
How long will it take for their reputation to catch up with them?
Notre Dame should only get into a BCS bowl if they earn it. Wisconsin and Auburn got shafted.
HOW ABOUT THIS, BOISE STATE INSTEAD OF ND? I WOULD LIKE THAT BETTER. I'M SO TIRED OF THIS BCS ####!!!
SOMETHING MORE REFRESHING. BUT IT WON'T HAPPEN, EVERYBODY WILL LOOSE TOO MUCH MONEY......####S
I hate the fact that ND gets to be in the BCS when clearly they don't deserve it. They should just give up all that NBC money they get and join the Big 11 (I mean ten) so they can finally get a championship game in that league, so they are on the same playing field as every other major conference, except that other elitist league out west. Give me KA SEC football.
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Well , I don't believe anyone would have had a chance tonight . This was kind of like the saints monday night game against atlanta . I wil give ND a break , but I don't see that Quinn is all that . I really don't think that Russell is all that either , but I'msure that he will get played up in the draft . I hope he proves me wrong , but I don't see it .
Once again, true college football fans suffer with the corrupt BSC bowl system while the Fighting Irish and the BCS fat cats laugh all the way to the bank!
Last edited by SactoBYU on January 3rd at 11:08 PM.
Unfortunately for more deserving schools, notre dame is part of the BCS equation. If they finsh in the top 12, and/or have 9 wins they get an automatic BCS at large bowl bid. And the polls will continue to keep them close to the #12 spot, any other team that loses 2 games, and 1 that late in the season, would have dropped out of the top 15, blame the so called experts who vote in the polls!
Last edited by cajunsmiles101 on January 3rd at 10:01 PM.
Wisconsin should have been there instead of notre dame! Wisconsin's only loss was michigan, and they kept up with them, and notre dame gets blown out by michigan at home? That tells you right there who deserved to play in the sugar bowl.
Unfortunately, Notre Dame continues to get Big Bowl Game Invites based on what former players and former coaches did decades ago. Too bad they are lining their pockets with another Big Bowl Check, which Rutgers or another more deserving team could have cashed. If they are bowl eligible next year they should have to play in Boise, Nashville or San Francisco.
Notre Dame IS college football. They are America's team, their fans are legion and the best in college football. It wasn't that long ago the Irish beat USC in eleven straight games, and Weiss will have them back to that level in just two more years, with high quality student-athletes. Their critics are just envious.
Sick of seeing another Irish fiasco. The BCS decision to allow ND to be in a BCS game with only 9 wins is, in effect, a subsidy of Notre Dame athletics. The $17+ mil they get to keep for themselves would be better off in the hands of a major or mid-major conference -- or for that matter, any school which could actually compete on the field and not embarass themselves.
Yes, ND has not played well in the bowls, but, they did beat Penn State, Ga Tech, Purdue, UCLA, NAVY, who all played in bowls this year. So perhaps they should not be in a BCS game, but, they're not as bad as all these blogs say, either.
Keep them coming back, watching the Irish get their heads handed to them every year puts a 12 month smile on my face (and I'm Catholic). Notre Dame brings in the most money, which is what the whole BCS/Bowl thing is all about in the first place, so watching Charlie Overated and Brady 3rd place get creamed just does my heart good.
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QUOTE "Wisconsin should have been there instead of notre dame! Wisconsin's only loss was michigan, and they kept up with them, and notre dame gets blown out by michigan at home? That tells you right there who deserved to play in the sugar bowl. "
Someone does not know their BCS Rules, Wisconsin was left out due to too many Big Ten teams being in a BCS Bowl...Secondly Notre dame is invited and stays out of a conference due to the fact they must invite an independant team to be at large..
Only myopic ND fans thought the Irish deserved a BCS spot. Brady Quinn is perfect for the Raiders. It'll be an all-star cast of losers!! Does Weis really think going on 4th down on your 35 early in the game was smart?? So, he learned from Belichek & Parcells but he is neither of those two.
Notre Dame just followed the BCS rules and accepted the bid by Sugar. Notre Dame is important to college football and more schools should beef up academics and run clean programs like ND. The Irish will be back on top soon with players who will graduate and contribute to society.
Notre Dame should not be allowed to play in a BCS bowl game for at least ten years. It is disgusting that I have to watch these bad football games because of them. I'm actually suprised that they kept this game so close. It should have been about 70-0. They should be playing pop warner.
Under the new BCS arrangement Notre Dame will be guaranteed one of the at-large slots in a BCS bowl if it is ranked No. 8 or better in the final BCS Standings. It is also guaranteed annual payment for its participation in the BCS. In those seasons in which the Irish play in a BCS game, the school will receive $4.5 million (an amount equivalent that received by a conference that places a second team in a BCS bowl). In those seasons in which Notre Dame does not play in a BCS game, it is projected to be paid $1.3 million for its participation in the BCS arrangement.
As in the current BCS arrangement, no more than two teams from the same conference may play in the BCS bowls in any particular year.
This just, once again, proves that our national sports media institution is completely obsessed with the Irish. I mean, don't get me wrong; I wish they were a good team and deserved the inane hype they always get. But the fact is they don't. When they become a good team, let them play for their earned spot in the BCS (or whatever other system replaces it in the future). Until that time, however, the entire country should get their heads out of the Irish's butt and look at them through objective glasses. Think about it: did it really take tonight's game to show how undeserving they really are? I don't think so.
For many years I've watched as Notre Dame is over-rated. Even with some blatant assists from the zebras tonight, they could not manage to look like they belonged in a BCS game.
Why do they get their rankings? Could somebody please answer that question for me.
No they definately dont. They wont until they play harder teams. There is an easy solution to that and it is sthat they should join the same conference that Ohio state and Michigan are in
Eleven national titles. Notre Dame is the definition of what college football is about. I'm sure the penitentiaries are full of team speed. Those "athletes" can play at Miami and Ohio State. It takes more than having good hands to play for Notre Dame. If anybody thinks Notre Dame isn't going to win another national title, they are sadly mistaken. As far as their schedule. They consistently play the toughest schedule in football. They lost to USC, Michigan and now LSU. All top ranked teams. USC lost to Oregon State, and UCLA (a team that Notre Dame beat). Michigan barely lost to Ohio State and then got trounced by USC.
Notre Dame is about tradition, and everything that is good about college sports. With the emphasis on college, you know the place you go to for an education. They maintain their standards yet play schools that will sell their souls to get a good athlete. So enjoy your Notre Dame bashing while you can. The blue and gold will endure.
To all the people that are saying Weiss will have the Irish back up in two or three years I say, "so?" They weren't good enough to be in the BCS this year, and they showed it tonight. The BCS either needs (another) major overhaul, or we need to ditch it for something better. Wisconsin, Auburn, Rutgers even, would have played a much better game.
Notre Dame isn't terrible, but it's been years since they've fielded a team good enough to be worthy of a top-tier ranking or a high-level bowl bid. And yet they continue to get both, because poll voters apparently think Touchdown Jesus will smite them with holy fire if they admit the obvious. Pathetic.
Oh, and ND's history and academics? Both are admirable. Neither matters when evaluating the ability of a team to play football this year. If your only argument for why they deserve a bowl berth is that they used to be good, then you're beyond hope. That's like saying that after USC laid an egg against UCLA, they still deserved to play OSU because of how awesome Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush were.
PLEASE they don't deserve to play in a bowl game period! They need to join a conference like the MAC so maybe then they will actually be able to compete and not look like a bunch of boys among men which they clearly are!
Listen up big money. Been a fanatic supporter of college football for over 40 years and unfortunately a diehard KY Wildcat and Minn Vikings fan to boot but unless we stop screwing teams like Auburn and Boise State by not allowing a playoff next year, yall can kiss mine goodbye.
How about Boise St/FLA winner Vs. LSU/OSU
Last edited by Kaintuk on January 3rd at 10:35 PM.
Dear Tincat, I was at the 2001 Fiesta Bowl and I saw first hand that Notre Dame WAS (past tense) college football! Keep drinking that Notre Dame (We'll win the bowl game next year) Kool Aid!
People should remember that this is only Charlie Weis' 2nd class of players. He took ND to 2 BGS bowls while using Tyrone Willingham's players.
ND wasn't exactly being mentioned in the top recruiting classes until Weis got there.
Lets get one thing out of the way. The BCS needs to go. PERIOD. This system of computers deciding whose better instead you know the novel concept of actually PLAYING the games out on the field needs to end. This season more than anything else proves that with Boise State showing the little guys can hang punch for punch with the elites, I mean come on I've got Hawaii trouncing ND if they play. Who wouldn't want to see a UM, UF semi final with OSU playing LSU in the other round.
I personally am sick of the overall Notre Dame hype every year. They are always ranked way too high to start the year, and benefit from playing, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, well they might as well. then they of course lose to teams with speed and defense that actually play a tough schedule, then get handed there hat in a bowl. They belong in the Texas bowl or some other lesser bowl. The BCS and the pollsters need to finally wake up and realize what everybody else knows, they are a good team that cannot compete against elite programs, and therefore do not deserve the noteriety of a BCS bowl. Just let them go pollsters, Please!
Love looking at the preseason predictions now.
I'm not going to embarrass any magazine by name, but the one I'm looking at picked Notre Dame to win it all. Priceless
Notre Dame should apologize for putting such a bad product on national television in a bowl game that could have been exciting if LSU would have had a worthy opponent. That was pathetic.
Notre Dame proved once again that they do nothing but make fools of themselves on the national stage. Yet, the Bowl comittees will continue to give them the ticket to these games because people will watch the Irish, no matter how badly they continue to perform. They are simply a memory of a by-gone era that is just that.
The real crime is that the Irish continue to steal good BCS games away from much more deserving teams. Last year my Oregon Ducks were victims of the stupid rule that puts Notre Dame into a BCS game if they are ranked 12th or higher. This year, it was Wisconsin that was robbed the chance to perform on the big stage.
The green Irish uniforms say it all: its all about the $$$. As long as the TV ratings are high due to the non-fan tuning into the game because they recognize “Notre Dame” and nothing else, the Irish will continue to steal games from more worthy football programs.
“Go Irish” should be replaced with “Just Go Away, Irish”. The time has come for everyone to move on.
I agree that Notre Dame is making it hard to consider them a BCS bowl team each year, however you have to give them a break. LSU played like the champions they are, they would have beat anyone in the NCAAF tonight. If they would not have gotten screwed by 2 bad calls against Auburn they would have revenged their lost against Flordia and won the SEC Championship, and went on to win the National Title if the would have been selected.
Notre Dame should get an automatic BCS bid just for being the epitome of college football, the best academic standards, the best history, the best fight song, the best fans, the best of everything. Eat your hearts out. The Irish will be in a BCS game for years to come!
Notre Dame belonged in one of those bowls that was played near Christmas. The last four times they faced the big boys, they got their butts kicked.
They were fortunate to beat UCLA and Michigan State, which revealed their true prowess on the football field.
Don't give me garbage about the past. This is the 2006-07 bowl season, not the '70s or '80s. Brady Quinn is likely a fine young man, but his next big victory will be his first. Contrast that with the likes of Troy Smith, Matt Leinart, Jamarcus Russell or Vince Young, who delivered.
Typical Irish, play #### teams all year and win. Then play 2-3 good teams and lose and somehow are in the BCS game and lose big time. There's so many teams that would've given a better performance. I think its time the BCS makes ND join a league like the Big 10 or something if they want to make a BCS game. Make em win a title first!
Can anyone tell me the intro song to the game. It's a famous aria but I can never remember what the title is or the composer. It's the one that sounds like a song from Omen. lol Your help would be greatly appreciated.
"Notre Dame is about tradition and everything that is good about college sports"
Quotes like these are why your team and your fan base are despised. Is it good that an ND team that didnt deserve to be in a BCS game was there, while other teams who were deseving got the shaft? Have you forgotten about Kim Dunbar and the mess she created in South Bend?? The only tradtion they have had as of late is one of losing NINE bowl games in a row. Get off your high horse, bottom line is ND AINT ALL THAT ANYMORE.
notre dame is in a conference in all sports but football, they are in the Big East! Just think of the fun Louisville, Rutgers, West Virginia,South Florida, heck even Cinciannati would have had beating the highly over-rated, over-ranked irish!
Last edited by cajunsmiles101 on January 3rd at 10:38 PM.
Well all I have to say is that one it must be nice to get home field advantage in a bowl game like LSU and USC. Second last time I checked ND was 10-2 with it's only loses to then # 2 Mich, and # 2 USC. for 95% of college football teams that would be a great season. Did they deserve to be in the BCS game yes, it must be nice to sit back and write bad things about ND but I don't hear anyone praising their teams and how much better they are then ND. And yes ND will be in a BCS bowl game next year so live with it. GO IRISH.
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