Dusty Bobby Crockett
by: AnotherNBAOutlaw
HOODRAT THUGS 133 PIT POKER 39 ( PICKING UP THE REALITY AROUND THE BLOG)
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Recently I've been taken to task about the subject matter of blogging about the necissity for athletes and fans to act in a civilized matter. I'm being negative and abrasive and hostile and angry. Ok. And your point is? See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil?

A guy who blogs on here whom I happen to respect and like and I talked almost all night the other night while I took my turn watching our little dog sleep and help her to feet and take her basket outside and sit on the grass so she could pee and so on because she had been attacked by a pit bull as I wrote about. Anyhow the wife and I been taking turns and today she ate pretty well for the first time and walked around a bit so that's the good news. Anyhow back to cleaning up odds and ends on the blog. This guy made a statement that is true yet totally wrong. He said "I blame the media". That part is true. The media certainly does give us all the dirt don't they? But why do they do it?

Because that's what we want. That's what sells. Media is basically like selling anything else. In their case they get advertising dollars based on how many people they reach. In every situation just like on this blog there are those who want "happy news" and "positive news". But that doesn't draw viewer or readers in any media. NONE WHATSOEVER. And it doesn't here either. I wrote twice about the thug problems in the sports week and the count was as above. 133 entries. I wrote two good news blogs and the count was 39. Just about right.

Now I want to talk about my motivation here. I been accused of bragging about being rich. We're not rich. Not even close to being rich. We're middle class. We should be at my age I would think and I would think that many bloggers here by the time they have reached retirement age as I have, will have as much and probably more than we have. I just live in amazement at the people who think that after 50 years of working that someone is bragging if they talk about their home or how proud they are of their children turning out good. It's just inconceivable to me that this is considered "negative". Everyone loves their children and are proud of them when they do well.

But I have done my time in the working world and and as a black man I am going to continue saying what I think about my race in sports and the rap generation. It don't matter if nobody posts back. I know people are reading. And the reality is that there are more good black people in this country than bad. WAY MORE. And since a certain amount of people on this blog defend thugism in sports and defend the degradation of women in rap and since the two go together so much these days I'm gonna continue using my time in this forum and anywhere else I can to try and stop the image of what the hip hop generation has done to the black community at large over the past 20 years. WE ARE NOT ALL THUGS AND GANGSTAS. We're fathers and mothers and homeowners and business owners just like anyone else.

I've been called racist by virtually race there is including my own. That's laughable. First of all it's impossible to be racist against your race. Racist by defination means you hate a particular race in it's entirity for no other reason than their race. I openly hate the rap culture. Does that make me racist? Not at all. That's absurd. All blacks are not in the rap culture and not all rap culture are black. So just knock off that ####.

Do I hate all whites? Not at all. I don't really know that many whites out of the whole population any more than the rest of you do. But I sure hate those that brand me as less than them because of their race. And that is the truth that many whites are still racist in ever part of the country. But that doesn't mean the next white that a black meets is going to be racist. I was accused of being racist against Latinos for saying L:os Angeles has had a severe problem concerning Mexican teams playing soccer in Los Angeles at the professional and world cup levels. We have had those problems., At one time the city had to stop allowing it and schedule games out of the county because of the level of violence behind it. Does this make me racist against ALL Mexicans because of it? Absurd. My wife is L:atina and my in laws are Latino. The word racist is used far too easily by every race when people can't defend their own ####. Here's an example of real racism. This was said TO me on the Blog. Not by me but TO me.

"it's because ur an angry black man"  is racist without deniability. A non racist would simply say "you're an angry man". What does COLOR have to with it?

THEN THIS PERSON COMES BACK WITH:

" Dusty. I've read your posts...you talk about thugs, pit bulls, death, gangstas etc....you talk the talk of a black man, you make no bones about it."

This is probably the most racist statement I've ever read on this blog. I do oppose thugs,gangsters and drive by shooting involving thugs and gangsters and I do talk about it. So that makes it the "talk of a black man" then I have to wonder what is its that this white person who lives in the most racist white county in california, Statistically speaking, the county that has the most crime every single year against minorities by whites, the county where five white kids beat an asian to death for simply "looking at them", how this person can claim they are not racist?  WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO HOLD THESE PUNKS RESPONSIBLE IF THE BLACK COMMUNITY DOESN'T HOLD THEIR OWN RESPONSIBLE? To be honest about it whites can't do it.  they will be called racist instantly. Neither can any other race deal with the problems of another race because of that same thing. This country has become a country where nobody has to be responsible because all you have to do is scream racism and that takes care of that.

  And I did write about an Asian Lady's Pit bull attacking our little terrier. THAT is the "talk of a black man"? Nobody any other race every had a pit bull attack their child or them or their dog? WHO KNEW?

This person closes by saying I am racist against all races. It I am against all races (which I am against Skin heads, La Famila, Crips/Bloods, thugs and hoodlums of all races equally) then by defination I can't be racist because if you don't like any race then you're not racist.

Here's the bottom line. The person I like and admire and sat up chatting with most the night was someone I didn't know their gender, race, age or location in the country prior to our conversation. He told me he was  white and part of the country that would be considered "hllbillies".  I sure couldn't have told you that. The stereotype of hillbillies is that they can't even possibly be computer literate. But he is. He taught me a lot about his part of the country and his views on a lot of things while we talked. And I never once got a sense of him being racist or even slightly stupid because he's country. One of the best conversations I've had in 14 years on the net.

'Here's some definations for you from Los Angeles and what they mean in my world:

"Cracker"...has nothing to do with region of country nor does it mean hillbillies or hicks or anything else except for meaning a racist white person. Doesn't mean to imply that all white people are crackers. They're not.

"Border Brothers": I learned this one from a Mexican American guy who is a born here citizen. Means someone here illegally. Simple as that. Doesn't mean to imply that all Mexicans are illegal. They're not.

"####" The most hated word in my world there  is. It was almost exterminated at one time but the rap culture brought it back. It used to be "####" or whatever but it's back to the same thing and the same meaning as when a cracker uses it. It means poor, uneducated, violent, thugish, gang related hard criminal types. Of course those that would have you believe that are, are  not always what they would have you believe but it's just simply a STUPID word used by STUPID people. I have used it with others who use it and regret it instantly every single time. To lower myself to that level is a self humiliation. Most blacks do not use that word. Only the rap culture.

Thanks for your time. 

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Saxman57
Jan 12, 2007
8:59 AM
Well, I DID read the whole thing.

I'm relatively new to this community, so I don't have all the knowledge about past blogging, and frankly, I don't care to.

What I read was an articulate, well-thought out post.

I'm sorry that people won't take the time to read this. But know that you're one of the writers here that I will take the time to read on a regular basis.

fatmaw1
Jan 12, 2007
9:22 AM
Saxman..Well, I did read this post. And if you had read his posts as "dustylaker" you would understand where these guys are coming from. I made a comment on a blog about Barry Bonds, that I agreed with the fact that Bonds has cheated his way to where he is. Somehow or another...out of my opinion about that...Dusty labeled me a racist, a Christian, a Southern Baptist, a thug, and a cracker. Please feel free to see all of those posts. I have no idea where this anger and frustration comes from. It's like he just flips out...and the name callin tirade begins. I still don't know how believing Bonds is a liar and cheater made me all those things...but apparently it does. Dusty will write this blog, and then turn right around and continue to fly off the handle on other blogs. It doesn't change him.

Dusty...nice try. But what you are saying about yourself here being accused as being racist...is exactly how I felt when you accused me of the same. Like I said...look in the mirror before you start accusing people of things. There's a reason you had to totally wipe out your old blogsite, and begin with a new identity...unfortunately, it didn't change you a bit. Don't know what else to say here.

Last edited by fatmaw1 on January 12th at 9:23 AM.

ReverendRhythm
Jan 12, 2007
9:50 AM
Just out of curiousity, how do you explain why so much of white youth today tries to emulate that gangsta or thug persona?

markhein123
Jan 12, 2007
10:47 AM
i got an idea dusty....

FIND A NEW TOPIC!!!!

sixfigurefan2
Jan 12, 2007
2:08 PM
ReverendRhythm

It's called CRI.........
Cranial Rectal Inversion

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
2:09 PM
I thing the responses are indicitive of what most of the people on this blog are all about and that is HATE. From Rooster to AK to Lisa to fat it's all the same syndrome in America. All they want is attention and if they don't get it they will hate on that person that they perceive as getting more attention than them because they themselves can't write, won't write or they won't face the facts that all they do is mainstream their hate and it's pretty damn hard to stand out in a crowd while you do nothing more than parrot what everyone else is saying. It makes you "popular" among your small group of computer friends but Hey, turn that computer off boyz in da computer hood and you're still all alone. Way it is.

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FloridaFlavor
Jan 12, 2007
2:12 PM
I kind of understand where you are coming from, as much as a white college student can understand it. But to me it seems like you just keep posting the same message every day in your blog. Obviously that could be your intent but maybe you should focus on other aspects of the world and sports (this is a sports forum after all) so this subject doesn't simply consume you and become who you are. Who cares if you get less responses writing about a positive subject than a negative one? I'm not going to step on your toes any more than that but you seem like a good writer and all so I would like to hear work on different subject matter from you once in a while.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
2:14 PM
believing Bonds is a liar and a cheat is one thing. Proving it is another. Fatmaw and others on this blog want Bonds banned from baseball based on what his having tested postive for amphetemines once last season.That's not the America I choose to live in. Innocent until proven guilty AND punshiment within existing law is the world I live in. Bonds will be punished appropriately for having tested postive for amphetemines. Fatmaw claims this is a secnd "guilty" which it is not and claims there is no difference in this and steroids. That's like saying there is no difference in armed robbery and burgarly. Bonds is not what I defend. Right and Wrong under the constitution of the United States is What I defend. As for saying I think he's a stereotype Christian Right Wing racist? I think he has pretty well established that himself over the course of the past 4-5 months.

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AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
2:23 PM
Florida I didn't notice you responding before to any of he more "positive" articles I have written but I won't belabor that point. The thing is anyone can and will write when their favorite team wins and many will brag and diss well beynd the concept of where we are in the season and what the game actually means and to be honest? You can get 1,000 paid sportswriters view across the internet to tell you that more professionally that I ever could.

I don't think that I write about thugism in sport anymore than others do, but I take the side against it which makes me stand out as someone "always harping on a point". Those who write with a passion DEFENDING it or defending the player on THEIR favorite team are multitude and once again they don't stand ut because there are so many of them. Just a thought.

Thank you for you input Florida but with all respect I would like to see you do something like answer Reverend Rhythm's question which I am not qualified to do? Why do so many white kids try to emulate the "thug gangsta image" of rap when you so obviously have no basis in thought for it? I'd love to know that answer.

rivjo
Jan 12, 2007
2:25 PM
Found a little bit of me in one part of your blog. It's when you said you were racist against skinheads, la familia, Crips/Bloods, thugs, hoodlums, etc.. I have often said similar things.

My "catch" line when talking about racism with others is that I am prejudiced against a-holes who perpetuate stereotypes. Whether they be gangsters, white trash, Latin Kings or Chinatown mafia. I can't stand them either and they make everyone else in their ethnic group look bad.

First and foremost I am an American. For the record of ethnicity however I am Puerto Rican. I know out in California the latino population is mostly Mexican. Here in New York many Puerto Ricans are quite fond of flaunting the P.R. flag everywhere. On their cars, t-shirts, dominoes, rope chains, hanging from apartment windows, etc... Don't get me wrong. I am proud of my heritage. It's just that more often than not the guys waving the flag around in public are acting like total idiots making a spectacle of themselves. It always seems that it's the ones you'd rather not have associated with you, that need to broadcast to everyone "where they from". It gets tired and it bugs me that some people think we're all the same as these few.

People need to stop living the life of a stereotype. That's what those thug white kids are trying to do. They want to be stereotypical white boy "that's down". It's all about attention and "status" regardless of race.



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nyace29
Jan 12, 2007
2:42 PM
rivjo-

its called pride, learn it!!!!!!!!!

Last edited by nyace29 on January 12th at 2:43 PM.

rivjo
Jan 12, 2007
2:51 PM
Exactly my point "ace" Thanks for further evidence.

Hopefully when you show your pride you do it in a way that makes us all proud and reflects on our heritage.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
2:55 PM
Rivjo thanks for your imput. You said it well and you said the one thing I should have been saying all along. I have no problem with various groups trying to change things for the betterment of fairness and equality. But what upsets me most of all is people like NYace calling it "pride" when it's actually racism against every other nationality. We're all AMERICANS and that was your point and that's an outstanding point.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
3:01 PM
Rivjo here's an interesting question, at least to me. I had guy working for me for a few years who was Puerto Rican by birth and had familly living there. Had in fact grown up there. Because of this my first wife and I actually took a vacation to Puerto Rico for 10 days and saw the Island. We had a lot of fun and found the people to be very warm and friendly for the most part. Now here's my question. Do you suppose most of those waving the P.R. flag and making loud noises and so like you say, have actually ever been to their Native Country? I know many of the Mexicans tell me out here they have never even been to Mexico and it's only two hours away. LOL

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nyace29
Jan 12, 2007
3:06 PM
well rivjo

i guess being an army veteran of about 6 years is not enough pride for my nationality or my country huh?

or how about still working and supporting our troops who are in the line of fire everyday in my civilian govt job, would that suffice?

its funny i got a tat of the puerto rican and italian flag on my arm and i went to a pool party and some wise guy was like so were is the American flag you don't have any American pride? my response with a sly grin on my face was its at home on my BDU's, it shut him up real quick.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
3:13 PM
ace is proving the same point over and over and over that he always proves. He is not about being an American. A true american can complain, can work to change things, can march and protest but what they won't do is put another country ahead of the one that is feeding, clothing and sheltering them. Ace is a racist pure and simple and I base that not on what he is saying here but on what I have seen from him over the past year. Anyone, in my view, who puts their race ahead of all others is in fact, a racist.

nyace29
Jan 12, 2007
3:19 PM
what race could i be racist against dusty ? please do tell?

im half puerto rican half italian
my blood brother is black and italian
my gf is black/belizian

so what race am i against again? lol

dont play yourself man , everybody knows your a fraud

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AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
3:42 PM
Just shows your ignorance once Again Ace. You're racist against anyone not "puerto Rican" and you've shown that time and time again over the past year. Just because someone interacts with other races doesn't mean he's not racist against others. I been around too long and I know when someone like you is what he is. You're a disgusting, shallow, immature, insecure, lying about working (you spend far far too much time on a blog to be working) and you only ally with others on the dime blog against me because I call the majority of you out for what you are. A bunch of lazy, no job, simple minded twits. Yes that is correct. TWITS. And Twits knows no color.

Last edited by AnotherNBAOutlaw on January 12th at 3:43 PM.

rivjo
Jan 12, 2007
3:52 PM
ace--Kudos to you for serving the country and for having a job. Like I said, I hope you carry yourself with class like most of us Puerto Ricans do. However for calling out the knuckleheads who act like morons, (and you know exactly who I'm talking about) running around flag waving that means I have no pride to you?

Nor did I say celebrating the Puerto Rican flag means you must be one of those idiots I referenced. However, if you roll up with your homeboys, pumping the base, with fat rims on your ride, yet you have no job, yelling out the windows at women, waving the flag---THOSE are the cats I'm talking about. And once again you know exactly who I mean. I don't need THEIR type of pride reflecting on me.

So carry on my Boricua brother. You hold your end down and I'll hold down mine. I know where my pride lies most, and that's in me. Anything I can do to reflect well on others who came up like me, I'll try to do as well.

Hopefully you hear what I'm saying now rather than trying to insult me by saying I have no pride in my bloodlines.

rivjo
Jan 12, 2007
4:06 PM
Dusty--To answer your question I think it's really impossible to say. It's a mix although I think many have been to the island at least once or twice. My father was born in P.R. and came here in his early 20s. My mother was visiting family on the island in the 1950s. They met and he followed her back. She taught him English and he became one of the first hispanic cops to join the NYPD.

Anyway many of the guys you inquire about could have been born here or back on the island. Can't really say but I think the typical examples have several things in common. One is no ambition to succeed. Two would be disenchantment with the economic system facing them. Three would be a desire to live a free and exciting lifestyle with no responsibilty. Four would be a belief that it's everyone else that's holding them down. You know, the same things that unites all slackers around the country. Hey at least they have their "pride' and the ability to "keep it real".

The vast majority of us work hard and value our family above anything else.

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fatmaw1
Jan 12, 2007
4:23 PM
dusty...where did i ever say he had been guilty twice? Personally, I think he is guilty of steroids, considering there are documents showing his complete cycle of roids...and for some reason, those documents are not admissable in court. I also think it would be a tragedy for he, McGuire, or any other player using banned performance enhancing drugs to eclipse Aaron's mark. I hope that NO ONE will give him that opportunity. At some point there has to be a stand taken by the league and the public. If Barry is the example, well, I don't feel sorry for him. If McGuire is the example, well, I don't feel sorry for him either. Why do you think #### continues to keep silent about the whole deal? He continues to stay in jail to protect Barry....from what? HOW BOUT THE COTTONPIKIN TRUTH FOR ONCE....FOR GOD'S SAKE....HOW BOUT THAT?!!!

Wait...did I read Dusty correctly?....I'm all about attention and hate? Holy shiza!!! I hope Dusty's the only one who doesn't see how rediculously hypocritical that is. You're a hoot dusty...a real hoot. I guess all I can do is laugh...and say "I luv ya man"!! I'm at a loss for words!!

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fatmaw1
Jan 12, 2007
4:31 PM
Hey Dusty...I challenge you to show me where I'm a right wing Christian racist?!!! So far, you're the only one who see's that. As for you, take a look around...I'm not the only one who see's you for who you really are. WOW!!!! Again...I guess I can just laugh and say "I luv ya man"!! WOW!!! Prove it to me Dusty...prove it to me!!!

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
4:38 PM
As I have stated I do not feel any kinship regardless of race with those who are racist against me for simply stating that I want the young black male in sports held accountable. You people are popping up on this blog and defining youselves as being exactly what you are. IGNORANT by saying bonds should be banned, yet you support the thugism of a Vick or a Melo or a Tarrant. What you do is support the violation of EVERY SINGLE one of our CIVIL RIGHTS. When you support Barry Bonds or a Mark McGuire being held to harsher standards than the law is even demanding then YOU are the PROBLEM not me. You support violating EVERYONE's civil rights because you can't violate his without violating MINE.

fatmaw1
Jan 12, 2007
4:42 PM
Dusty....what does Vick or Melo have to do with Bonds? When did I ever show support for Melo or Vick? What the hell are you talking about? I personally felt that Melo should have been banned for at least the rest of the season. As for Vick...he flipped someone off....what else has he done to "prove himself a thug according to Dusty"? The shiza just keeps gettin deeper.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
4:43 PM
LOL Rivjo. Wow. What insight you have. And I agree with you although I used different words, less sophisticated words to say it. I think a lot of it boils down to what Chris Rock says....Keeping it real.....READ DUMB. It's just an excuse to lay around smoking blunts, living off of welfare women and being lazy is the bottom line in most cases.

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AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
4:47 PM
You refuse to debate the law of justice don't you Fat? you're nothing less than a vigilante personality. You refuse to admit you're demanding Bonds be held to a harsher standard than either the rules of baseball or the laws of this country. You deny, deflect and distort but you will not address your own culpability. YOU are demanding that Bonds be banned for something YOU can't prove and that is vigilantism.

fatmaw1
Jan 12, 2007
4:54 PM
Oh no?....he was just caught with a BANNED substance!!! BANNED...BANNED...BANNED!! He has "thugs" risking and giving up their own freedom to keep silent about his "alleged steroid use." There have been confiscated documents showing his complete pill popping regimen. Dusty...this isn't the court rooms here...this is the blog world where we have opinions...based on what we see and read. If I base my opinion of someone because of that....how does that make me a thug? Do you think that everyone who is set free from our court systems are innocent? Do you think everyone who fries was guilty? It's called that GRAY area Dusty. Use your noggin. Use your ability to rationalize beyond what our court systems say. Until I stop using my brain to make rational decisions, I guess I will always be a thug/Christian/Souther Baptist/Cracker/and racist to you... WOW!!!

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
5:04 PM
The RULES say that someone caught using amphetemines for the first time as Bonds was that they will have to undergo counseling and be tested monthly for six months and will of course be subjected to random testing as all are for the remainder of their careers. Bonds is the most tested person in the history of MLB.

He is going to be subjected to the rules as stated. It's a far leap from what is the RULES being enforced as they are to what you are demanding which is being banned from the game. You are being a vigilante and that is far worse than even using steroids much less amphetemines. And this is the point where race comes back into it since it was YOUR race hanging MY race for doing nothing more than being ALLEDGED to have done "something wrong". And therein lies the difference in you and I. I support the Constitution of the United States of America for ALL people including Barry Bonds which is INNOCENT until proven guilty and when proven guilty, punishment WITHIN EXISTING LAW. I do not and will not ever support vigilantism as you do sir.

Last edited by AnotherNBAOutlaw on January 12th at 5:09 PM.

fatmaw1
Jan 12, 2007
5:09 PM
Again dusty...this is the blog world where we use rationalization...not court room decisions. I do believe, sir, that is permissable here. And because I have done that, I have been labeled all those afformentioned in my last comment. You're not a judge, member of the jury, or baseball official. You are an average joe citizen who can use his noggin....and not a robot. I suggest trying that...and not labeling those who do as thugs and racists...and everything else you label them as. If you want to talk legalities, find a "legalaty" blog somewhere. Oh, and I've now been labeled a vigilante....I'm keeping record here you know. This is actually getting quite fun. You're a trip dude.

Here's a hug for you Dusty....got it?!!! I think you need one. Luv ya man!!!

edclinch
Jan 12, 2007
5:09 PM
I liked this a lot. Good job.

Don't let the detractors (i.e. 2007 lingo: haters) get you down.

You preach it, sir.

Again, sincerely: this was cool to read.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
5:13 PM
LOL You're the trip fatmaw. You refuse to admit that it's wrong to be demanding breaking the law in order to punish someone you just "know" to be guilty because you can't prove them guilty. And that is exactly what vigilantism is. You are WRONG. You can say you hate Bonds. but when you go further than that and start howling about banning him without the proof you are being a thug. You are violating MY civil rights as well as his and I WILL continue to call you and everyone like you on it sir.

fatmaw1
Jan 12, 2007
5:21 PM
Dusty...you're still totally missing my point. THIS ISN'T THE COURT ROOM!!! So you're telling me you haven't judged your "boys in the hood" because of what they wear, the music they listen too, and how they talk? You're such a hypocrite!! You don't want Barry or Mark to be judged because it can't be proven in the court room that they have taken roids...yet you find it in your "heart" to judge everyone else for what they say on this post. Again, why has Barry's buddies kept silent to the point that they continue to be jailed for it? They don't deny Barry's guilt....they just stay silent. Think Dusty...think!! If you set there and tell me that you have never felt that someone was guilty, even though they were set free...you're kidding everyone here including yourself. Like I said...this isn't a court room...it's the blog world where we are allowed to think freely without having to be robots. If that makes me a thug...then it just flat out makes me UnAmerican...because I thought that's what living here gave us the freedom to do. Luv ya man!!!

By the way...I love the way you erased Bbing's comment. That was classic. I guess you hope no one else read it...LOL!!!

Last edited by fatmaw1 on January 12th at 5:27 PM.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
5:29 PM
No YOU are missing the point Fatmaw. Talking about UPHOLDING THE LAW against thugs is something that I should be encouraged to do here, but that others should be doing as well . Talking about how someone dresses is not putting their livlihood and their life legacy in jeopardy.

YOU DO EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. You talk about BREAKING the law in order to uphold what YOU "perceive" to be the case. YOU talk about something that the more it is talked about the more it becomes familiar to others and the more others will do it and then you want to know why the police drag yourself or your kid out of bed in the night and take them to Guantanamo bay without a warrant without a trial without a lawyer, without a conviction. YOU are why this country has people like Bush and Cheney taking every #### right we citizens ever had away from us. And it starts right here in the blog or over the back fence or where ever people "innocently just talk" as you claim to be doing. NO SIR YOU MISS THE POINT ENTIRELY. YOU ARE A FAR GREATER THREAT TO LIBERTY AND FREEDOM THAN BARRY BONDS WILL EVER BE TO BASEBALL.

Last edited by AnotherNBAOutlaw on January 12th at 5:35 PM.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
5:31 PM
i erased bbing and others blog entry here because it was not relevant to what the discussion here is. He is not my "friend", he does not post on my blog for many many weeks when there was a so called "positive" blog, he's totally out of line with his hatred of bonds as well but he makes it off subject. I have no interest in what he has to say when it's off topic to what MY blog is about.

Last edited by AnotherNBAOutlaw on January 12th at 5:32 PM.

fatmaw1
Jan 12, 2007
5:33 PM
Okay Dusty....whatever dude!!! I give up.

If you want the true definition of a hypocrite, read over all your comments. This has been a hoot...what else can I say. You've got serious issues dude....SERIOUS!!! I hope someone tells you that they love you today...and that they give you a hug dusty. Heck, maybe it's the thug down the street in the hood...or the Christian/Southern Baptist/Racist/Vigilante who says it and gives it to you....I actually hope that it is. Well, according to you I'm all those things. So here's your hug Dusty!!! I'll leave you with this....BARRY SUCKS!!!! Love ya man!!

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
5:38 PM
And I close with this (and I will have the last word on MY blog Fatmaw). YOU do exactly what is the most serious problem in this country today. You do what all thugs of all races and cultures do.When you cannot deal directly with the reality of what you have done, which is violate every single American's right to a fair trial and not be subjected to vigilantism, then you say the person exposing you to "have issues" and the like. You are exactly what I say you to be. Irresponsible, ignorant, uniformed, uneducated and a right wing facist.

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ReverendRhythm
Jan 12, 2007
7:06 PM
I agree with Ace. At this point, we're all several generations in and most of us, myself included, can't be pigeon-holed into one category or label.

There's no reason for it. It's narrow-minded, limiting and essentially racist.

If a person is an ####, he's an #### because of his personality, upbringing and lack of education, not because of his background, nationality or skin color.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
7:18 PM
and I agree with you Reverend in general but I also know form many years of experience that there are a lot of people who claim not be racist who are at the very first opportunity like the person I quoted at the top of the blog.

The whole point is Rev, I don't know you, I don't know your race, your gender, you location or anything about you and frankly I don't care. I judge people by how they act. And in the case of the "rap culture" and the "thug sports figures" I am sick and tired of their high profile causing all black people like myself and my children to be thought of as they are. All of rap is not black and certainly all blacks are not thugs but that's our image due to those I just mentioned.And I AM SICK OF IT.

A Tim Duncan is often described as "boring". Why would that be? Because he's not a thug? Because he's not in the news all the time for being in trouble>? Good Lord the man is a first ballot hall of famer but he's dissed constantly for being boring. What a country we live in anymore.

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ReverendRhythm
Jan 12, 2007
7:24 PM
Dusty, you're judging a book by its cover. Not all black, or white, people who dress in that fashion are bad or mean-spirited people. You're assuming that because of the way the look.

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
7:26 PM
Nothing could be further from the truth Rev and if you seriously want to discuss it I would be more than happy to do so here or on your blog.

ReverendRhythm
Jan 12, 2007
7:29 PM
Which part? The fact that you're judging people by their appearance or the fact that not all those who dress like hoodrats actually are?

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
7:32 PM
First of all Rev an we agree on two things?

1.) there is a difference in Hip hop and thug rap?

2.) there is a dfference between dressing hip hop and dressing thug?

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AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 12, 2007
7:55 PM
rev just let me say this since I'm playing poker and you haven't been back. Since pro sports young black males and rap clubs have been repeatedly in the news since what 5 years ago when Paul Pierce was stabbed in such a club and since perception IS reality among the public at large it really desn't matter how much you want to protest that I or anyone else is judging a book by it's cover or how racist you want to call me the FACT is that rap clubs are a den of neverending violence and that pro athletes should know better than to be caught up in that mess. It also doesn't change the truth that thug rap is degrading to women and pro violence and leads kids down that path and that there IS enough of it that the majority of blacks like myself who do not act in that manner are being stereotyped by the public at large as being like that because of those high profile athletes who are part of it. Now you can hate on me all you want but what I am saying is the truth.

Wildeman
Jan 12, 2007
9:04 PM
I'm a RACIST!! There I've said it and I’m proud of it!!
When the aliens land I'm definitely on the side of the HUMAN race!!! …and that alien race better watch out!!!…unless they’ve got some really good tunes…and a nice set of wheels…maybe some babes….or extra tickets to the Super bowl! LOL

I’m not black….I’m mostly white... and I don’t like thugs in any of my sports!!!…But for every black thug there are dozens who aren’t, but the non-thugs almost never make the headlines. I live in Atlanta and we hear as much about Michael Vick’s little brother as we do about Warrick Dunn. Dunn is one of the truly good guys. Same goes for Joe Johnson, a very good NBA basketball player, a very classy guy, and you never hear about him…okay, that could be because he plays for the Hawks!! LOL

The bottom line? …the good guys…of all races… just don’t make the headlines!

The bad guys? They get WAY TOO MUCH publicity….especially if they’re invading earth!

TheFormer88Fan
Jan 13, 2007
2:47 AM
hey Dusty.

Yeah it was a cool blogging chat we had the other night. You're a black man, I'm a white man. I didn't even know you were black till I read the THUGS post and commented on it.

I will tell everyone that reads Dusty's posts, you have to read it and read it carefully. He has every right to say what he says. If you question part of it, comment on it and he will be happy to explain.

But whatever you do, don't perceive him as being racist. Honestly, and I told him this several times before we began a long bloggins session, I didn't understand the point he was trying to make in his THUGS post. Yet, when we talked about parts of it, it all made sense to me.

He has some very good points on the professional athlete and rap music. I for one agree with him.

Yeah, talk about being a stereotype. How many of you would make some stupid #### remark if I said I lived in the eastern part of Kentucky? Well, I for one know many of you would. I have heard it on here before.

The remarks about incest, buck-toothed hillbillies, barefoot and pregnant, the list goes on and on. But you know, I get a little ticked at first then I realize your ignorance. I realize that you are no better than I. I realize your culture is what defines you. In that I mean, if you grew up where I grew up, you'd act like me, talk like me, have the same mannerisms as myself.

If you say this isn't so, then your ignorance does precede you as well as your inability to accept anyone other than those around you.

Keep up the good work Dusty. Don't let ignorance hinder your good writing.

peace

AnotherNBAOutlaw
Jan 13, 2007
2:10 PM
Woah. I got a chill reading what you said 88. Yes you are the person that I talked with at length the other night and never once did we discuss what you have discussed here about where you live in the context that you mention it here and the reason we didn't was because I honestly did not know that people thought that way about your area. That's absurd. But it doesn't suprise me since this is all the ignorant do when they get confused and/or cornered with their own particular brand of hate. I don't claim to be always right about anything since there are always different perspectives but at the same time I am willing to learn from anyone that will take the time to talk to me and explain where they are coming from and allow me to state where I am coming from. Our discussion was the most productive discussion (for me at least) I have ever had on this blog. You taught me a lot. Thank you.

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Apr 13, 2007
8:52 AM
I love your style and ability to be frank. (Who's Frank?) i would like to feature some of your work in the future. We are racing oriented, but will be featuring other stuff. contact me bloginfo@seeing20twenty.com

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