I have a reliable source (he was at the race ) who told me that they announced at the track Sunday that LVMS will have a second race.

He claims it is this year but the schedule has not changed.

Was anyone else there and did they hear this announcement? (according to my source the crowd went wild!)

Could it have been an announcement about next year?

Fines- I have updated my  Here's your FINEs  (from Daytona) blog to reflect the appeals as they come in. ~Plenty of new stuff there~

Edwards updated .

Robby Gordon's appeal is supposed to be today as well- updates will be made as I (or you) find them.

As has been stated elsewhere- NASCAR seems to be dragging their feet on the fine issues.

And that's not FINE with me!

It never rains in California, but girl don't they warn ya
It pours, man it pours.

 Burney Lamar, Patrick Carpentier, Mike Skinner, Ken Schrader, Kenny Wallace, AJ Allmendinger.

These drivers will not be driving in the Cup race this weekend (or when ever they run it)

Practice was cancelled because of the rain today,meaning the field was determined by last years owners points.

 And the weather report looks bleak.

A response to Robby Gordon docked 100 points for violations

Robby Gordon was penalized for using an improper nose on his Dodge Charger. The infraction was discovered during opening day inspection for the Daytona 500 on Feb. 8.

Driver Dale Earnhardt, Jr. has been penalized with the loss of 50 championship driver points, while car owner Rick Hendrick has been penalized 50 championship owner points. Crew chief Chad Walter has been fined $25,000 and suspended for the next six NASCAR Nationwide Series events until April 9 and placed on probation until Dec. 31, 2008 for a violation found following practice on Feb. 14. The team used parts that were illegal and altered their rear spoilers.

The No. 0, No. 1, No. 14, No. 64, and No. 77 cars were all found to be using the oil reservoir tank cover was not fastened securely. These violations were discovered during post-qualifying inspection on Feb. 15. Each of the cars' respective drivers and owners - Kertus Davis/Johnny Davis for the No. 0; Johnny Sauter/James Finch for the No. 1; David Gilliland/Carl Haas for the No. 14; David Stremme/Ed Rensi for the No. 64 and Cale Gale/ DeLana Harvick for the No. 77 have been penalized with the loss of 25 driver and owner championship points

**UPDATES; 3/5/8
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) - A NASCAR appeals committee on Monday overturned all the penalties levied against Rusty Wallace Racing for an infraction discovered on David Stremme's car before the season-opening Nationwide Series race.

 Newt Moore, crew chief for Johnny Sauter at Phoenix Racing, had his suspension reduced from six weeks to two weeks by the three-member National Stock Car Racing Commission. Charlie Wilson, crew chief for Cale Gale at Kevin Harvick Inc., had his $15,000 fine reduced to $5,000 by a separate three-member panel.

 for the 0 not good-",

 it is the unanimous decision of the National Stock Car Racing Commission to uphold the original penalties assessed by NASCAR.The Commission notes that crew chief, Gene Allnutt, began serving his suspension last week, so the adjusted penalty notice to correct for the deferral will reflect this.(from NASCAR.com)

for the 14 something different

By a majority vote, the National Stock Car Racing Commission decided to amend two of the three original penalties assessed by NASCAR as follows:

• Loss of 25 Nationwide Series Championship Car Owner Points and a $15,000.00 fine for car owner Carl Haas, with the fine payable by the current majority owner of Richardson-Haas Motorsports, Donnie Richardson.

• Loss of 25 Nationwide Series Championship Driver Points for driver David Gilliland.

• Suspension from NASCAR for the next six (6) Nationwide Series Championship Events; suspension from NASCAR until April 9 (not including testing), and probation until Dec. 31 for crew chief Robert Edwards.(from NASCAR.com)

In the Craftsman Truck Series, the Daytona race winning No. 30 Germain Racing crew and driver Todd Bodine were penalized 25 driver/owner points while their crew chief Mike Hillman Jr. was fined $10,000, suspended for the next four NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series events and placed on probation until Dec. 31, 2008 for infractions found during pre-qualifying inspection. They were using a device which reduced the bed panel height during inspection.

The No. 33 truck, driven by Ron Hornaday Jr. was found to be in violation of Sections 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing); 12-4-Q (truck parts, components or equipment that doesn't conform to NASCAR Rules); and 20B-3.1.1 (spoiler braces exceeded the maximum one inch width). Crew chief Rick Ren has been fined $5,000 as a result of the infraction. This violation occurred during opening day inspection on Feb. 12.

There are more in the article.

Now I thought pre-race inspection was just that, after failure you were give a chance ot 'fix' it and re-inspect.

Post qualifying I understand -sort of- why not just back of the pack them?

I thought Gordon's deal was all settled?

Update  Gordon to appeal

I know this is cut and paste reporting-

But a  body can't have a conversation on the main pages. And I thought we might have a good one here?

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A response to Penalties likely for Dale Jr., Waltrip

It's not another Daytona cheating scandal - not yet, anyway - but inspectors did impound Earnhardt's No. 5 Nationwide car Thursday night after spotting an illegal modification to his rear spoiler. The team got its car back - minus the spoiler and rear deck lid - Friday morning.

Officials also confiscated the carburetor from the No. 99 Nationwide car driven by David Reutimann, who drives for Michael Waltrip Racing. The carburetor's venturis were too large, allowing more air to pass through and providing a potential horsepower advantage.

Waltrip's Cup series team was penalized for an illegal fuel additive in the Cup series at Daytona last year, touching off a major cheating scandal.

UMM Guys........................................This sounds familiar.

What in the Sam Hill were they thinking?

After reading I Need To See Your ID Please by HotfootLori
And Underage Driving by Fevr3fan
And Young Drivers by MichaelLoos
I decided to add my perspective. (And possibly some rambling)

This is my personal take on the subject
and anecdotal evidence does not create fact I know.

My BFF when I was a teen, was a racin' man.

He raced ON THE TRACK.
When it came to cruisin' on the street, he was much safer that the other yah hoos because of his Saturday night outlet.

The city kids with their fast cars that 'played' on the city streets were a very dangerous crowd, without the discipline achieved ON THE TRACK.
(we had a good friend wreck and die squirreling around on the street)


Trust me, if you make a bone head move and push a geezer (seasoned veteran) into a wall or a spin, your happy butt WILL hear about it in the pits.


My son grew up around us racing .
As soon as he was old enough to 'not get too hurt' he was out there wrenching right beside us.

As soon as he was tall enough, he was THE tire guy in the pits. Sometimes 3 or 4 different drivers would holler at him to help.
Friday night and Race day were GREAT.

Changing engines (two hours before the race) Changing all four tires (mark that left rear one would you) Pull that crank, Charge my battery, Tighten this, Bend out that, Find me a piece of sheet metal (this size) Where's that extra radiator hose Why is that still leaking?

(man I love those days)

Heck half the 'grown men' had him use the tire machine, cause he was quicker at it.
By this time he knew as much about the cars as the owners/drivers.


But I digress.

I had no problem with him driving ON THE TRACK.
(I think he was 14 the first time -he had to wait till he could reach, we wouldn't change the set-up of the car from the primary driver) [practice]

He knew every risk, and had seen what the cars COULD do. We had seen a few fellows carted off to the hospital through the years.




He is 21 now and off to Fort Benning in 2 weeks.

Granted, what sparked this comment (it started out as a comment for one of the above blogs and grew to this) was the possible changing of the minimum age for CUP drivers.
I don't agree with the 21 rule.

Now if you were to tell me that Richie Rich was going to drop a bunch of bucks and buy a car and try to qualify the next day, it wouldn't matter what age he was.(I assume the PTB would put a stop to it)



To sum up and try to achieve topic.

*When they learn it they earn it.

* NO ONE lets a STUPID Rookie on the track without testing their metal. The other driver WON'T let it happen.

*If they can't drive it, they won't stay.

*Track experience makes a street driver safer and more aware.

*This blog has very little to do with the blogs referenced above.

Again ---this persons opinion



Note: Still my BFF and still racing.
(the blonde is the trophy girl)

Thank you Fox Funhouse for including me on your hot list today!